From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Mar 06 05:31:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 6 Mar 2002 13:31:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 50088 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2002 13:31:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2002 13:31:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.69) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2002 13:31:35 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:31:35 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:31:34 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: sets, masses, &c. (was: RE: [lojban] Re: [jboske] RE: Anything but tautol... Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:31:34 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2002 13:31:35.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CB2B600:01C1C513] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la djan cusku di'e >What is >wrong with "lo plise" (some of the things which are apples) for >"a bowl of apples"? The scope of the quantifier. And was talking about something like: le tansi cu tisna loi plise The bowl is filled with apples. But {le tansi cu tisna lo plise} means that there is at least one apple that fills the bowl, which is false, because there is no apple that fills the bowl by itself. The apples can only fill the bowl in collaboration, as it were. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx