From lojban@lojban.org Thu Mar 07 07:15:02 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 7 Mar 2002 15:15:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 31244 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2002 14:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Mar 2002 14:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2002 14:55:03 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (ppp60.net-A.cais.net [205.252.61.60]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g27Et0e14878 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:55:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306204553.00e07150@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1035@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 20:48:34 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] go'i: repeated referents or just sumti? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Logical Language Group X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1099080 At 11:07 PM 2/26/02 +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: >la tanatos cusku di'e > > >The gimste definiton of {sumti} says that lo sumti is text, so if you're > >speaking in Lojban about sumti you have to quote words. > >So it does, you're right. The place structure does not make >much sense then, because the form "le mlatu" is a sumti form >irrespective of any selbri, Throughout the gismu list, I made the assumption that idealized "forms" would be a lujvo probably using tarmi. The place structure assumes that something is a sumti if it is an argument of a predication, not merely if it is of the form of such an argument. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org