From phma@webjockey.net Mon Mar 11 07:51:55 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 11 Mar 2002 15:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 65970 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2002 15:51:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2002 15:51:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2002 15:51:54 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7BE573C475; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:51:53 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] More about quantifiers Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:51:52 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0203111051520F.02444@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Monday 11 March 2002 10:43, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > > .i 1mai ganai roda nebdatka gi da blabi > > .i 2mai ro nebdatka cu blabi > > To be on the safe side, {roda zo'u ganai da nebdatka gi da blabi} (the > quantifier inside the conditional but with scope over the whole leads > sometimes to unexpected results). The first is, I think, universally agreed > to be non-importing. The second is also, according to xorxes, is importing > according to me (and, I would say, Lojban generally). Okay, so how do we distinguish "Everything is white if it's a swan" from "If everything is a swan, then something is white"? phma