From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Wed Mar 13 05:40:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 13 Mar 2002 13:40:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 89059 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2002 13:40:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2002 13:40:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2002 13:40:04 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:12:52 +0000 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:39:42 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:39:28 +0000 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] More about quantifiers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin >>> Jorge Llambias 03/12/02 10:59pm >>> #la pycyn cusku di'e #>I suspect that there is no simple word for it because it is so rarely=20 #>useful #>as opposed to {su'o...naku...} and, when it is, "not every" works fine. # #"Not some" should work just as well for "no", and yet it gets #its own word in English (as well as in Lojban, coincidentally). True. Note, though, that English does have "Not one", "Not a single". You could see "no" in both English and Lojban as having its existence justified by virtue of it being a number, rather than being an=20 abbreviation of "not some". That argument would be stronger for Lojban=20 than for English. --And.