From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Fri Mar 15 09:18:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 15 Mar 2002 17:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 76147 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2002 17:18:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Mar 2002 17:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2002 17:18:43 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id g2FHIhI04982 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:18:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:18:43 -0700 (MST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [lojban] openprojects IRC whining. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Jay Kominek X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=20706630 X-Yahoo-Profile: jfkominek On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Craig wrote: > 1. Had they all heard the name Lojban before? > > If openprojects doesn't give us any exposure with people who havent been > exposed to us before, what's the point? Lots of people have heard of Lojban. (I meet randoms in real life occasionally, who have. Not to mention in assorted places on the Internet where you wouldn't expect it.) Many of them have questions, and odd misconceptions which need to be fixed. I think making it easy to fix those is important. (It is possibly more important to fix people with wrong ideas, than it is to introduce a slightly larger number of people to the right ideas. ) > 2. Have any of them become active Lojbanists? > > If openprojects makes people have heard of us, that's good, but not as go= od > as targeted recruiting toward people who might actually want to learn > lojban. A reasonable number of IRC people are not as geeky as most of us > are. The OpenProjects network was originally intended solely for the UNIX/Programming/Free software crowd. It was later opened up to any sort of 'open' project (though it never made anyone leave unless they were up to something blatantly illegal). So the average geekiness is quite above the average Lojbanist geekiness, even with all the UNIX users in the community. I'd be willing to bet that unless there is a conlang IRC server out there, you're not going to find a more concentrated population of potential victims.. er, students anywhere else on IRC. (As a little side note, the person who runs OpenProjects is actually interested in Lojban, and apparently had interactions with the Loglan community ages ago. He has dropped in once or twice. So we're quite welcome there.) - Jay Kominek Plus =C3=A7a change, plus c'est la m=C3=AAme chose