From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Mar 19 12:06:57 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 19 Mar 2002 20:06:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 72901 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2002 20:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2002 20:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.166) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2002 20:06:56 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:06:56 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:06:56 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: Fw: [lojban] Logic course Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:06:56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2002 20:06:56.0944 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F0FFB00:01C1CF81] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la greg cusku di'e > > In my opinion, the lerfu pronouns, the ko'a/fo'a series, the > > vo'a series, ri, ra, ru, all work just as much as bound > > variables as da, de, di. The only differenvce is in how the > > binding takes effect. > >huh? For example: ro remna su'o ninmu zo'u ny mamta ry is equivalent in my view to: ro da poi remna ku'o su'o de poi ninmu zo'u de mamta da {ro} binds {ry} in the same way it binds {da}, even though the form is more compact. I stress that this is just my personal understanding. As far as I know there is no official interpretation of the first case. Similarly for {ko'a}: ro remna goi ko'a su'o ninmu goi ko'e zo'u ko'e mamta ko'a And in the case of {vo'a}, we have that ro prenu cu prami vo'a means that every person loves themself, and not that every person loves every person. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx