From xod@sixgirls.org Mon Apr 01 07:39:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 1 Apr 2002 15:39:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 51086 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2002 15:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Apr 2002 15:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (216.27.131.50) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2002 15:39:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g31FdIU23738 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:39:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:39:18 -0500 (EST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] ce'u once again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1138703 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Nick Nicholas wrote: > Sorry to scratch old wounds, but I'm revising the lessons now that > I've got a spare couple of days, and inevitably my discussion of {ka} > comes up for review. I'd like people to have a look at it, now > tempers have died down, and tell me if they think it coheres. > > In particular, a reviewer suggested to me that I can't claim a > property applying to a specific individual is a fact, with the > example "Fred's illness is more debilitating than George's". I agree, > but would content 'illness' here is neither a fact nor a quality, but > a state (i.e. an event); and if this was a non-stative event, like > running (Fred's running is more debilitating than George's), we > wouldn't even think this involved a quality. le jei F ruble ri'a le F terbi'a cu zmadu le jei G ruble ri'a le G terbi'a -- "You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists." -- President Nixon, 26 May 1971