From araizen@newmail.net Wed Apr 03 22:33:39 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 4 Apr 2002 06:33:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 84387 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2002 06:33:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2002 06:33:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mxout2.netvision.net.il) (194.90.9.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2002 06:33:38 -0000 Received: from default ([62.0.180.135]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Sep 5 2001)) with SMTP id <0GU100G9C67X70@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 04 Apr 2002 09:33:36 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 09:36:43 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban] ce'u once again To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <00c901c1dbab$8e3038a0$87b4003e@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <103.132fee1a.29dd0e0f@aol.com> From: Adam Raizen X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3063669 X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen la pycyn. cusku di'e > I suppose you mean {la fred la djordj cu zmadu le du'u ce'u ralju le cecmu be > cy}, which is technically a 1-place predicate. If you do mean the second > {ce'u} then it is a free floating variable that makes the whole rather > obscure, being essentially universal (relevance conditions assumed) -- but > what I had in mind. What is the trick it is supposed to cutely do? No, I meant that it would imply the predicate 'la fred ralju le cecmu be la djordj.'; however, as you say, a 2-place property with 'zmadu' is obscure. I still don't know what you had in mind. Sticking to 1-place in x3 of 'zmadu' would certainly be best. mu'o mi'e .adam.