From a.rosta@ntlworld.com Mon Apr 08 05:02:26 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@ntlworld.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 8 Apr 2002 12:02:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 83014 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2002 12:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Apr 2002 12:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.43) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2002 12:02:26 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([62.255.40.101]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020408120224.COHR303.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:02:24 +0100 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Whorf Hypothesis in Scientific American Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:02:42 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <02040718032700.01159@localhost.localdomain> From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77248971 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Robin.tr: > On Wednesday 27 March 2002 14:20, And Rosta wrote: > > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/explorations/2002/032502language/ > > The article betrays a lack of knowledge of the literature, speaking as it > does of a Whorfian revival in the 1990s. Berlin and Kay were doing research > on colour terms way back, and George Lakoff had already started > rehabilitating some of Whorf's ideas in the 1980s. I have absolute faith that journos get most things wrong, but on this particular point I think it is correct to say that the revival dates to the 1990s. Yes, Berlin & Kay's work dates back to 1969 or so, and Lakoff was embarking upon his cognitivist programme from the late 70s, but this all turned into a mainstream revival within the culture of linguistics only within the 1990s or very very late 1980s. --And.