From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 11 17:12:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 12 Apr 2002 00:12:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 5185 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2002 00:12:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2002 00:12:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (216.231.54.78) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2002 00:12:46 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 16voh1-0000Pl-00 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:13:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:13:31 -0700 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: xirli'u selsanga Message-ID: <20020412001331.GF27861@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: Robin Lee Powell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=66827819 X-Yahoo-Profile: robinleepowell On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:39:44PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > Robin Lee Powell: > #On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 01:25:39PM +0200, Bj??rn Gohla wrote: > #> but is my lojban understandble and within the specefication? > # > #From a casual listen, I would say it is for the most part *very* > #understandable (better than most online samples I've heard), with one > #fairly major problem: you pronounce a trailing 'e' as a schwa; '.e le > #brife' comes out as '.e le brify' > > **I haven't listened to this**, but I find it surprising if Bjoern is > a German speaker, since it would imply that he is speaking Lojban > without a German accent but with an English accent. I may well be > wrong, but I suspect that Robin's perceptions of the e/y boundary are > tainted by English. Actually, I have the ability to recognize phonemes from any language; I'm a mutant in that regard. Also, his pronounciation of e is *much* different internal to words. Regardless, I'd very much like you to listen to it and comment, because I very much think you're wrong. 8) Also, a trailing schwa is very germanic from what german I've heard. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/