From xod@sixgirls.org Sat Apr 13 07:47:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 13 Apr 2002 14:47:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 88396 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2002 14:47:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2002 14:47:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (216.27.131.50) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2002 14:47:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3DElYi24505 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2002 10:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 10:47:34 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Tense and attitudinals In-Reply-To: <20020413143035.DFD17127AC@manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1138703 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Robin Turner wrote: > Is it possible to tense, not an attitudinal itself, but the source of > the emotion expressed? I was trying to work out an attitudinal to > express the nostalgic feelings brought about by finding some old > friends on the Net, something like > > .uisairo'a.uinairu'e ro'i > > but I wanted to indicate that the first part is activated by the > present situation, and the latter by memories (and regret that the > situation is not as it was). Attitudinals refer to the speaker and to the instant they are speaking. There are only two exceptions, and that's pei and dai. I think you'll need an experimental cmavo for that, which I will start using myself. While you're at it, you might like to create one to project emotions to a third party, as well. -- "You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists." -- President Nixon, 26 May 1971