From lojbab@lojban.org Sat Apr 20 12:08:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 20 Apr 2002 19:08:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 85836 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2002 19:06:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2002 19:06:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (216.231.54.78) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2002 19:06:42 -0000 Received: from [205.252.61.3] (helo=bob.lojban.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 16z0Ci-0004ua-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:07:25 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020420150220.04bdd500@digitalkingdom.org> X-Sender: lojbab@digitalkingdom.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:07:13 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] where the mailing lists lie In-Reply-To: <20020420065317.GS28651@digitalkingdom.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020419173804.04b5eec0@digitalkingdom.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20020418222728.049dde70@digitalkingdom.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20020419173804.04b5eec0@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: lojbab X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 11:53 PM 4/19/02 -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 06:08:03PM -0400, lojbab wrote: > > At 01:09 AM 4/19/02 -0600, Jay Kominek wrote: > > >On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, lojbab wrote: > > > > Not finding Yahoo Groups tolerable is their problem, more than it > > > > is ours. > > > > > >It'll be ours when Yahoo starts selling our names, addresses, etc. > > > > They can't sell what you don't give them. (Hint: they have no way to > > verify the truth of anything you enter into their data fields, other > > than your email address. > >Ummm, who cares about anything other than our e-mail addresses? Jay did, apparently (he mentioned income and marital status, which aren't even on Yahoo's form, though snail address and phone are). We can't protect our email address unless we never post. Any evil corporation just subscribes, and collects the addresses of posters (and if those aren't somewhere in the header in order to protect against this, then we have no capability to reply to sender). lojbab