From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Sat Apr 20 12:53:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 20 Apr 2002 19:53:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 2036 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2002 19:53:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2002 19:53:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2002 19:53:34 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id g3KJrY808419 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:53:34 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:53:34 -0600 (MDT) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lists and Spam In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020420154008.00aaa930@digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Jay Kominek X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=20706630 X-Yahoo-Profile: jfkominek On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, lojbab wrote: > On what basis do you stop someone from subscribing? Verifying someone's > net persona is a bit of work, and a large number of people are subscribed > not under any obvious real name (not that a competent spammer wouldn't be > able to create a fictitious person's name). The thing is: spammers _aren't_ competent. The only reason they have any success is through brute force, and sheer bulk. (Which is of course, the entire premise of bulk mailing.) - Jay Kominek Plus =C3=A7a change, plus c'est la m=C3=AAme chose