From amadan@xxx.xxxx Sat Jan 9 06:40:07 1999 X-Digest-Num: 40 Message-ID: <44114.40.141.959273824@eGroups.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 15:40:07 +0100 From: Goran Topic Regarding a word for Croatia(n), John Cowan noted a valid Type 3 fu'ivla. > I think Jorge suggested a possible gismu, which would be very unofficial > under the gismu baseline. the other option would be either a type 4 > fu'ivla or a subset of the latter, a rafsi fu'ivla as described in Chapter > 4 section 16 (p80) of the Book. > > xrvatska itself would seem to be a valid type 4 fu'ivla - I don't see any > obvious way that the beginning consonat cluster could break up. > > Standard type 4 fu'ivla cannot be compounded into proper lujvo, though one > can achieve the effect using zei > > A rafsi fu'ivla, which could be used in compounds by replacing the final > vowel with a schwa under the experimental proposal described in the > reference section, must be of the form CCVVCV. I would suggest something > like xra'ata, but the real choice should be made by our Croatian Lojbanists > as to what would sound good to their countrymen > (or at least relatively unoffensive %^). .i mi nelci zo xorvo .e le ri rafsi .iku'i so'oda pu selfi'u .ije ra nalca'i .ie mutce .i tu'a zo xrvatska te nabmi mi le terbasna .e le romoi sance .e ledu'u ra na'o sinxa le po'o gugde mi'a fau ledu'u ra galfi no drata valsi .i mi'o cusku zoi xy. XRvatska .xy. .i ku'i lo drata seltai be le vlakra no'u zoi xy. xrv- .xy. ka'e xamgu .i zoi xy. XRvat .xy. za'e xorvo prenu smuni valsi .i ri po'ervlatai zoi xy. xrVAta .xy. .i zoi xy. xrvatska .xy. na panra no'isemu'ibo mi stidi tu'a zo xroato .e zo kroato .aunai .i le terbasna cu xamgu .i le ba'usna cu pluka gi'e xroato jibni .iji'a zo xroato pesepa'a ro lo kulnu valsi cu se romoi .obu to .i pau mi na birti ledu'u dei gendra .i mi ba'o ba'acu'i morji ledu'u ta'i ma rinka lenu lo lerfu cu lerfu jenai drasu'i sinxa toi no'i ma selsku la ivan.