From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Apr 25 15:49:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 25 Apr 2002 22:49:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 59478 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2002 22:19:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2002 22:19:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.209) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2002 22:19:27 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:19:27 -0700 Received: from 200.69.2.52 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:19:27 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] So you think you're logical? Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:19:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2002 22:19:27.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[4364AF10:01C1ECA7] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.2.52] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la pycyn cusku di'e >So? I got them all right each time through. does this prove that {ganai... >gi...} is really the right thing for "if... then..."? (Or does it prove >that >I am professionally weird?) I thought it very interesting that 75% of people get them wrong, and that this drops to 40% in the case of contexts with cheating. That means we're not really relying on logic when dealing with these sorts of problems. The question would be whether the results would be better if the problem was presented in Lojban, where presumably this particular connective is more transparent. And what would happen if the problems were worded in English something like: "The rule governing the production of the cards states that a card either doesn't have a circle on one side, or it has the colour yellow on the other." That's how a lojbanist would read it. Would we get a higher percenatge of right answers? mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com