From pycyn@aol.com Sat Apr 27 06:32:13 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 27 Apr 2002 13:32:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 63185 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2002 13:32:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Apr 2002 13:32:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2002 13:32:13 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.c3.21e5c590 (25712) for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 09:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 09:32:08 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] So you think you're logical? To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c3.21e5c590.29fc0258_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra --part1_c3.21e5c590.29fc0258_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/26/2002 3:31:00 PM Central Daylight Time, ragnarok@pobox.com writes: > But if one event impels another to happen, is bai not exactly right? > Well, sure, if. But does it ever happen that way. I am not sure what "one event impels another" might mean, but most of the things I come up with just don't apply and the remainder are just causes and effects, i.e., explanatory regularities. Further, the first place of {bapli} is a force (given as a {ka}, i.e. {du'u ce'u}!), not an event. I'm not sure how you would fit the force in with the event -- presumably teh first event (stewam entering a cylinder, say) generates the force which then impels the second event (the wheel goes round or just the shaft moves forward). --part1_c3.21e5c590.29fc0258_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/26/2002 3:31:00 PM Central Daylight Time, ragnarok@pobox.com writes:


But if one event impels another to happen, is bai not exactly right?

Well, sure, if.  But does it ever happen that way.  I am not sure what "one event impels another"  might mean, but most of the things I come up with just don't apply and the remainder are just causes and effects, i.e., explanatory regularities. 
Further, the first place of {bapli} is a force (given as a {ka}, i.e. {du'u ce'u}!), not an event.  I'm not sure how you would fit the force in with the event -- presumably teh first event (stewam entering a cylinder, say) generates the force which then impels the second event (the wheel goes round or just the shaft moves forward). --part1_c3.21e5c590.29fc0258_boundary--