From araizen@newmail.net Sat Apr 27 14:18:57 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 27 Apr 2002 21:18:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 99297 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2002 21:18:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Apr 2002 21:18:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mxout1.netvision.net.il) (194.90.9.20) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2002 21:18:57 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([62.0.180.5]) by mxout1.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Sep 5 2001)) with SMTP id <0GV8007SSWJCQ8@mxout1.netvision.net.il> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 00:18:50 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 00:14:38 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban] cipja'o To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <00ea01c1ee39$7fcef260$05b4003e@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <11d.1030bacf.29fc6187@aol.com> From: Adam Raizen X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3063669 X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen la pycyn. cusku di'e > > zoiny cipja'o ny na ka'e lujvo ki'u lonu zoiny pj ny cu naljbo .i mi pensi > > lenu do zo cipyja'o cu skudji .i xu go'i > > > > Ummm. What is the previous bridi at {go'i}. I assume what is wanted is {do > zo cipyja'o cu skudji} But {mi pensi...skudji} is actually closer, ending > after the {kei} after {skudji}. The rules in the RefGram are incomplete and > the examples don't help -- nor do I see how to get to the bridi after {nu} if > {go'i} doen't refer to it. I agree that 'go'i' refers to the main-level bridi of the previous sentence. To refer to the subsentence, I use 'drani' or 'jetnu' or (in this case) 'skudji' and let context take care of the rest. mu'o mi'e .adam.