From robin@BILKENT.EDU.TR Sun Apr 28 15:39:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: robin@real-time.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 28 Apr 2002 22:39:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 7821 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2002 22:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Apr 2002 22:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (139.179.111.11) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2002 22:39:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g3SNpHT01294 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 02:51:17 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] So you think you're logical? Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 02:51:15 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20020428204219.GD28651@digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20020428204219.GD28651@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02042902511502.01166@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Robin Turner Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810606 X-Yahoo-Profile: digambaranath On Sunday 28 April 2002 23:42, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 08:16:02PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > > Jorge: > > > That's how a lojbanist would read it. Would we get a higher > > > percenatge of right answers? > > > > Yes, if you mean actual Lojbanists, since we self-select mainly on > > grounds of our interest in logic. > > Except that it has been shown that formal logical training doesn't help. I found my (little) logical training helped - what screwed me was my inability to use a mouse accurately after four glasses of raki. Something like this could eventually work as a Sapir-Whorf test. I say "eventually" because you would need a sufficient number of competent lojbanists to provide a test group and a control group who would do the same test in a different second language (to avoid the self-selection factor and the possible influence of doing a test in a second language). robin.tr