From robin@BILKENT.EDU.TR Mon Apr 29 13:38:13 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: robin@real-time.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 29 Apr 2002 20:38:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 6183 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2002 18:45:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2002 18:45:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (139.179.111.7) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2002 18:45:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g3TJvRt01168 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:57:27 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] What's the logic behind Lojban's sound system? Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:57:26 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02042922572600.01165@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Robin Turner Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810606 X-Yahoo-Profile: digambaranath On Monday 29 April 2002 18:44, And Rosta wrote: > #>The phonology of /'/ and /@/, where /@/ = buffer vowel is so stupid > #>-- so unlike anything in natlangs -- that it is simply indefensible. I don't know about that. Colloquial Turkish uses a short "i" (that's an English "i", not a Lojban "i"!) or occasionally "ü" to buffer foreign words, e.g. "film" is often pronounced "filim" and "studyo", "sütüdyo". robin.tr