From a-rosta@alphaphe.com Sun May 05 11:51:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a-rosta@alphaphe.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 5 May 2002 18:51:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 38194 invoked from network); 5 May 2002 18:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2002 18:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.alphaphe.net) (217.33.150.223) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2002 18:51:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 31867 invoked by uid 101); 5 May 2002 18:51:39 -0000 Received: from host213-1-21-97.webport.bt.net (HELO oemcomputer) (213.1.21.97) by smtp.alphaphe.net with SMTP; 5 May 2002 18:51:39 -0000 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] stress, capitalization & audiovisual isomorphism Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 19:52:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-EDATA: smtp.alphaphe.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AlphaPhe.Net (www.alphaphe.net) From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110020381 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin John Cowan: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > [...] failure to represent stress orthographically [...] > > In fact stress *is* represented orthographically, if indirectly, > by the use of spaces between words: the next-to-last orthographic > V (excluding diphthongal semi-V's) before a space is stressed. I don't know if I replied to this before, but I think what I was getting at is that such an indirect representation does not count as audiovisual isomorphism, and that if it did count as AVI then AVI would simply mean that there is an algorithm to map unambiguously between writing and pronunciation. --And.