From fracture@allusion.net Tue Jun 04 08:10:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 4 Jun 2002 15:10:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 75654 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2002 15:10:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2002 15:10:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) (66.68.125.184) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2002 15:10:15 -0000 Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g54FI2C12832; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:18:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:18:02 -0500 To: Craig Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] casnu bau la lojban le si'o selma'o Message-ID: <20020604101802.A12795@allusion.net> References: <20020604004335.A1703@barsoom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ragnarok@pobox.com on Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 07:08:58AM -0400 From: Jordan DeLong X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=72693208 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 07:08:58AM -0400, Craig wrote: > >zo su'u cmavo zo nu >=20 > That's one way to do it that I've seen suggested. Others include using a > cmene (cmavo la nuk) or a description. The description works pretty well = for > UI, which all 'cmavo le selcinmo', but NU takes some thought. That seems like a pretty poor way to describe UI. UI includes a *lot* of cmavo which have nothing to do with emotion; the group is more defined by the free-usage they have grammatically. For example, xu, na'i, all the evidentials, sa'a, ku'i, and much of the discursives have nothing to do with emotion, and are all UI. 'le selma'o be zo ui', or 'ro lo cmavo be la'e zo ui' seem nicer than reverting to using names or descriptions to me. --=20 Jordan DeLong fracture@allusion.net --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjz82ikACgkQDrrilS51AZ9tcwCfdYJ75OdSKwjwGjob+f0QBZzn XHsAn27X6IJ2zz5I3KP4IDBcZLOSNZFl =FMoA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx--