From ragnarok@pobox.com Tue Jun 18 10:24:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 18 Jun 2002 17:24:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 55601 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2002 17:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Jun 2002 17:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 2002 17:24:27 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.182] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id ACCF195A00A2; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:24:31 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] "The bowl contains a dozen apples and oranges" Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:14:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <20020618171701.GD25348@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Importance: Normal X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >> > How does Lojban say that? There are 12 pieces of fruit in the bowl. >> > Some are apples, some are oranges. >> >> le gankabri cu vasru 12 najnimre ja plise. This of course does not imply that >> it contains at least one apple and at least one orange, but that's the way >> one would normally say it. Or {najnimre jonai plise} if you wanted to say >> explicitly that none of them is both an apple and an orange. >I would use 'joi', myself. There are many style differences also. For example, I would say it as "le gankabri gai najnimre joi plise cu vasru". --la kreig.daniyl. 'ro temci lo menli cu nibli' pygypy gubmau ckiku nacycme: 0x22C68020