From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Jun 18 11:13:29 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 18 Jun 2002 18:13:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 70330 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2002 18:13:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Jun 2002 18:13:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.62) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 2002 18:13:24 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:13:24 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:13:24 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: RE: [lojban] "The bowl contains a dozen apples and oranges" Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:13:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2002 18:13:24.0271 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5FBD3F0:01C216F3] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la kreig cusku di'e >There are many style differences also. For example, I would say it as "le >gankabri gai najnimre joi plise cu vasru". That says that each of 12 things, each of which is a najnimre joi plise, is contained in the bowl. Pierre's {ja} works but as he says it doesn't guarantee that they are not all apples or all oranges. I would say {le gankabri cu vasru lo najnimre joi plise paremei} which is not very precise but I think is hard to misinterpret. I'm not sure whether {lo paremei be loi najnimre kujoi loi plise} is strictly required to contain both. (Of course Griceanly it is so required.) mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com