From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jul 04 19:22:33 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 5 Jul 2002 02:22:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 79772 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2002 02:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2002 02:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2002 02:22:32 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17QIjw-0003sx-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:22:32 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17QIjv-0003sg-00; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:22:31 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:22:29 z (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17QIjs-0003sX-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:22:28 -0700 Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g652RPO82530; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:27:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 21:27:24 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] pro-sumti question Message-ID: <20020704212724.C82150@allusion.net> References: <1e.2a9a75d7.2a563c2f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1e.2a9a75d7.2a563c2f@aol.com>; from pycyn@aol.com on Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 08:02:55PM -0400 X-archive-position: 132 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 08:02:55PM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/4/2002 5:08:35 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 > lojban-out@lojban.org writes: >=20 >=20 > > IIRC, ri, ra and ru skip sumti of: ri ra ru ko'[aeiou] mi do ti ta tu .= .. > > Additionally, "ra" !=3D "rixire". ra just refers to a further-than-las= t > > sumti, not the next to last. >=20 > This sounds right, once said, so I withdraw my hope that {ri/a/u} is=20 > unambiguous, but hope this avoids the kind of doubling up that Nora=20 > suggested. >=20 for the record (I think this may be what you meant, but it was phrased slightly odd): - ri is unambiguous. ri xi is unambiguous. - ra and ru are ambiguous. - ru must always refer to something earlier than a ra in the same utterance. (spoon example in chap7). --=20 Jordan DeLong fracture@allusion.net --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0lBAwACgkQDrrilS51AZ+uFQCfebEBpxUmSlHJVso9zNQVUpH0 dykAoJlsqQAZRyyBCKWEFVvxeGaV2bdC =5fG/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0--