From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Jul 06 09:57:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 6 Jul 2002 16:57:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 41263 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2002 16:57:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jul 2002 16:57:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.168) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 2002 16:57:41 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:57:41 -0700 Received: from 200.69.2.52 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 Jul 2002 16:57:41 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] pro-sumti question Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 16:57:41 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2002 16:57:41.0486 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DB558E0:01C2250E] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.2.52] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la pycyn cusku di'e >xorxes: >it's elements, when there is some kind of overlap among the elements. >It all depends on how you define the sum, of course.> > >"Sum" is left pretty vague as a promissory note to fill it in, though >xorxes >seems sure that it cannot be. I was trying to think of a case of the sort >he >suggests here, but nothing natural came to mind -- orverlapping is not >something things do well. It works nicely with sets, of course, but masses >of sets are not very pleasant to contemplate. I would have said overlapping was something things did well long before it could be metaphorically extended to sets! Anyway, consider for example a wall covered with pictures. Each picture covers a certain area, but some of the pictures overlap, so the area covered by the mass of pictures is less than the sum of the areas covered by each picture. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com