From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Jul 10 09:13:48 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 10 Jul 2002 16:13:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 19872 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2002 16:13:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2002 16:13:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2002 16:13:48 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17SK67-0006Wf-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:13:47 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17SK62-0006WO-00; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:13:42 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:13:40 z (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17SK5z-0006WF-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:13:39 -0700 Received: (qmail 3124 invoked by uid 534); 10 Jul 2002 16:13:33 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:13:33 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Comments on a bit of translation... Message-ID: <20020710101333.A29501@miranda.org> References: <15d.10a67911.2a5dabde@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <15d.10a67911.2a5dabde@aol.com>; from pycyn@aol.com on Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 11:25:18AM -0400 X-archive-position: 171 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jay F Kominek From: Jay F Kominek Reply-To: jkominek@miranda.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 11:25:18AM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > > I don't want to be a wet blanket, but this material is almost certainly > copyrighted and by a company with lawyers going to and fro seeking whom they > may devour (not that we'd be much of a snack even collectively). Still, try > to get translation rights and then publish little or no English text, except > to answer questions about wording of your translation. Better yet, work on > public domain stuff. You have no legal liability here. You could, in fact, further protect yourself by being the one to point out this copyright violation to Nintendo. Their contact information for this is: "To report ROM sites, emulators, Game Copiers, Counterfeit manufacturing, or other illegal activities, please call us at 1-800-255-3700 or e-mail us at piracyscene@noa.nintendo.com" Once completed, Ted doesn't even have to distribute the game, merely a patch to the game, which includes nothing except for the original Lojban text. Asking "How is this correctly translated?" (the only thing he is doing) would surely fall under the "fair use for academic purposes" clause. And if it doesn't, then when he is sued by Nintendo Japan, it will create a lot of press for Lojban. (I'm sure Slashdot, if nothing else, would pick up "First ROM translator sued! Ever!") Everyone except for Ted and people who are scrounging (rather hard, in this case) for something to bitch about is guaranteed to win. Recall, by the way: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/message/7489 -- Jay Kominek Advice is a dangerous gift; be cautious about giving and receiving it.