From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Jul 10 13:27:26 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 10 Jul 2002 20:27:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 53268 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2002 20:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2002 20:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.225) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2002 20:27:26 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:27:26 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:27:26 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban Re: mei (was Pro-Sumti) In-Reply-To F64iZrAEXCUOGqcaZIc Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:27:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2002 20:27:26.0655 (UTC) FILETIME=[34B4BCF0:01C22850] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la pycyn cusku di'e >We can't readily get that hidden quantifier to light, the easiest is {su'o >lo >pisu'o loi broda} -- and this {lo} cannot be dropped. Another way of doing that, using my preferred version of {mei}, whould be: {[su'o] lo su'omei be loi broda} >And a specific >submass would be {le pisu'o loi broda} or (to be really safe) {le pa le >pisu'o loi broda} (we can't just tuck the {pa} inside the first {le} either >or we get a supermass). And that would be {le su'omei be loi broda}, which in this case can be explicitly singularized to {le paboi su'omei be loi broda}, avoiding the double selection implied by the double {le}. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com