From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Jul 16 17:45:25 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 17 Jul 2002 00:45:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 79953 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2002 00:45:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2002 00:45:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.75) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2002 00:45:24 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:45:24 -0700 Received: from 200.69.2.52 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:45:24 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] sentences made for lojban Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:45:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 00:45:24.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CB650A0:01C22D2B] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.2.52] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la greg cusku di'e >.i panonoce'i birti sei le pamoi se stedu se spuda ({cu se spuda}) {panonoce'i birti} is a sumti. I think you mean to use it as a selbri. I guess it means 100% of those who are certain. Maybe {panonoce'iroi birti} or {piroroi birti}, to use one of the ideas discussed on the wiki. You could also say something like {ju'ocai}. >.i pau .ianai do panonoce'i birti le du'u le bloti poi janli le loldi be le >ti xamsi du le bloti poi fi'o panonoce'i birti be du'o do fe'u do ke'a ka'e >panonoce'i noroi janli sei le se stedu be le drata remei cusku ({cu du}, {cu cusku}) I think {ka'e noroi janli} does not mean what you intend, you probably want {noroi ka'e janli}, which has a different meaning. The first one says that it could eventually never collide. The second one says it could never collide. And surely there has to be a way to replace that fi'o thing with something more clear. Is the {be du'o do fe'u} bit really necessary? mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com