From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Jul 24 19:42:43 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 25 Jul 2002 02:42:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 77270 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2002 02:42:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jul 2002 02:42:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2002 02:42:43 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17XYaR-0002I6-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:42:43 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17XYaC-0002Hp-00; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:42:28 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17XYa8-0002Hg-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:42:24 -0700 Received: (qmail 12513 invoked by uid 534); 25 Jul 2002 02:42:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:42:23 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: New Members, Board of Directors, other LogFest results Message-ID: <20020724204223.B1531@miranda.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010730221611.00b10c00@pop.cais.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020723025544.032cba90@pop.east.cox.net> <20020723103956.E28971@miranda.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20020723195058.030913c0@pop.east.cox.net> <20020723221537.B26815@miranda.org> <20020724051555.GC18580@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20020724105238.E9069@miranda.org> <013d01c2333b$2b1cf400$73a1ca3e@oemcomputer> <5.1.0.14.0.20020724192056.032e66d0@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020724192056.032e66d0@pop.east.cox.net>; from lojbab@lojban.org on Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 07:55:52PM -0400 X-archive-position: 267 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jay F Kominek From: Jay F Kominek Reply-To: jkominek@miranda.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 07:55:52PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Actually around 30-40% of LLG is non-American, and growing. It might even > be higher, because several non-Anglophones have recruited people whose > names we never hear. Colin Fine for example has sold around a dozen copies > of CLL in the UK. There have been study groups in Sweden, Italy, and > Israel where I only know one name. There is a Russian Lojban group on > yahoogroups (lojban-rus), and discussions are entirely in Russian and > Lojban - there may be a not-at-all-Anglophone among them, though I suspect > that most non-Anglophones on the Net have at least some reading knowledge > of English. > > There are several non-Anglo-primary-phones, and a couple > non-SAE-primary-phones (indeed I just got a call today from a Tagalog > native living in San Francisco who is interested). The largest numbers are > from Finland, but only Veijo Vilva has written in the language at length > and his English is flawless. I'm pretty sure Greg was saying that we need more people who don't know English. If they can read the CLL or live in San Francisco then they probably know enough English that they're fairly 'polluted' by it. (Well, maybe living in SF isn't evidence of knowing English... :) -- Jay Kominek X is the second worst windowing system in the world, but all the others are tied for first.