From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jul 26 18:19:26 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 27 Jul 2002 01:19:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 56868 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2002 01:19:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Jul 2002 01:19:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2002 01:19:25 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17YGEv-0005CR-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:19:25 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17YGEL-0005C9-00; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:18:50 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17YGEH-0005C0-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:18:46 -0700 Received: (qmail 11507 invoked by uid 534); 27 Jul 2002 01:18:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:18:44 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: Dictionary software--Unicode, please Message-ID: <20020726191844.B18871@miranda.org> References: <0GZV00HSANHAWZ@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> <20020726165300.A18871@miranda.org> <20020727011618.GA1045@allusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20020727011618.GA1045@allusion.net>; from fracture@allusion.net on Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 08:16:18PM -0500 X-archive-position: 321 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jay F Kominek From: Jay F Kominek Reply-To: jkominek@miranda.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 08:16:18PM -0500, Jordan DeLong wrote: > On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 04:53:00PM -0600, Jay F Kominek wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 03:22:21PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > Apart from all of the other considerations, please make any > > > dictionary software Unicode-capable, so that we can put in IPA > > > pronunciation data. Also so that we can do the Cyrillic and Tengwar > > > orthographies, although not as many people care about that. Or so > > > that someone can do a dictionary in languages *other* than Lojban and > > > English, or cite correct word origins for "djarsuci" and the like. > > > > My scheme, slowly getting underway, will indeed use Unicode. > > > > Thanks for pointing out pronounciation data, by the way. I hadn't > > thought to take that into account, yet. > > Various allowed IPA spellings should be able to be generated from > the lojban spelling, correct? People adding words shouldn't need > to enter that i'd imagine. Yes, but it can be provided for the natural language words. Generating IPA from Lojban is more or less trivial. (A yudit mode to produce proper IPA as you type Lojban would be neat, and quite easy. (And yes, of course a number of the characters have a variety of alternate pronounciations, but there are certainly "standard" pronounciations which would be used in the conversion.) -- Jay Kominek If at first you don't succeed, Increase the amperage.