From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Mon Jul 29 07:58:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 29 Jul 2002 14:58:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 60628 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2002 14:58:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jul 2002 14:58:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta9n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.215) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2002 14:58:44 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (213.3.165.246) by mta9n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.5.026) id 3D3E5FFE000AD9CA for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:58:41 +0200 Message-ID: <00b701c23710$8cc1a2e0$4a9cca3e@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" References: <9F74028A-A242-11D6-9A87-000393629ED4@uic.edu> <005f01c2365a$8e7230c0$b8a103d5@oemcomputer> <1027932082.31650.72.camel@bapli> Subject: Re: [lojban] senva Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:56:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81437350 X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke cu'u la jemna no'u la'o ny. John Leuner .ny > doi gordyn .o'onairu'e ke'u ba'e zo greg. cmene mi > Do you think it's possible to get a non-lojbanist to help you with the > gismu translation? I was thinking of paying someone here for a few hours > to work on it. (As yet I don't have a very specific person in mind). For a start, *I* charge SFr30.- (about US$20.-) an hour/page for translation. I'm not *really* willing to pay anyone that amount for something which I'll probably have to correct - and possibly re-translate - myself. I've so far done something like 15 hours resulting in all the keywords (but one or two) and just over a quarter of the definitions. - that's one hell of a lot of money for payed translation. > > > On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 18:16, G. Dyke wrote: > > zo gordyn cu cmene le mi patfu .i zo greg cmene mi > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven Belknap" > > To: "G. Dyke" > > Cc: > > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 5:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [lojban] senva > > > > > > > Gordon- > > > > > > I would translate this particular sense of the English verb "dreams" > > > with the lojban gismu . However, could be correct given a > > > context in which the reference is clearly to reverie rather than desire. > > > > > > -Steven > > > > > > On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 07:59 AM, G. Dyke wrote: > > > > > > > Well, saying "he dreams of winning the olympic games" is not quite the > > > > same > > > > as saying "he often dreams that a huge spider is under his bed" > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Robert LeChevalier" > > > > To: "jboste" > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 2:49 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [lojban] senva > > > > > > > > > > > >> At 07:56 AM 7/28/02 +0200, G. Dyke wrote: > > > >>> senva sev sne dream 'reverie' x1 dreams > > > >>> about/that x2 (fact/idea/event/state); x2 is a dream/reverie of x1 > > > >>> > > > >>> Does this include both waking, conscious dreams, or only subconscious, > > > >>> sleeping dreams? > > > >> > > > >> I see no reason why it shouldn't. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> lojbab lojbab@lojban.org > > > >> Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. > > > >> 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA > > > >> 703-385-0273 > > > >> Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: > > > >> http://www.lojban.org > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > > >> > > > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >