From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Jul 31 07:35:09 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 31 Jul 2002 14:35:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 31140 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2002 14:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jul 2002 14:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.52) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 14:35:09 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:35:09 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:35:08 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Parliamentary Procedures Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:35:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 14:35:09.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[787E64E0:01C2389F] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la pycyn cusku di'e >Herewith a few >initial suggestions for a new friendlier meeting-speak: >"Order!" {se bacru} just calling attention to the hubbub, much more polite >than, say, {ko smaji binxo} even if {ko} is not imperious (and it leaves a >back-up position, as "Order" does) How about {ju'i}? >"Move" {stidi}, or {ritli stidi} to be on the safe side. >"Second" (tsali gasnu} Other suggestions welcomed on this one (and all the >others as well, of course). {stidi sarji}, {stidi kansa}. >"Carry by to" {jinga} with the ayes on the prize and the nos in the foes. The place structure doesn't seem to fit. x3 belongs with x1, not with x2. I would go with {se zanru}, and the numbers might be added with {mau} and {semau}: {ko'a se zanru mau li 9 semau li 3} >"Fail by to" {to'erjinga} with ayes and nays reversed. {ko'a se tolzau mau li 8 semau li 4} or {ko'a se tolzau me'i li 4 seme'i li 8}. >"Table" {pensi denpa} -- a lujvo to get the places in. Did you mean {penmi}, or do you really mean {pensi}? I like {bavypu'i} for "postpone". >There are a whole bunch of "Point of..." which I don't remember well enough >to make suggestions at the moment. Over to Roberts readers. >"Call to order" {e'u [the meeting] cfari } Polite again {coiju'i} >"Adjourn" {se fanmo} {fe'o} >"Recess" {denpa} {de'a pensi'u} >"Meeting" {nu pensi kansa} (Hawk ptui! nu pensi'u mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com