From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Jul 31 12:48:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 31 Jul 2002 19:48:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 78646 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2002 19:48:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jul 2002 19:48:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.50) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 19:48:45 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:48:45 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:48:45 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Parliamentary Procedures Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:48:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2002 19:48:45.0691 (UTC) FILETIME=[47FA7CB0:01C238CB] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la pycyn cusku di'e ><< > >"Table" {pensi denpa} -- a lujvo to get the places in. > >Did you mean {penmi}, or do you really mean {pensi}? >I like {bavypu'i} for "postpone". > >> > I suppose that compound is malylatno -- what, after all, do you put >where >and on what (the table)? Well, it's metaphorical, whatever it is that you're postponing, you put it in the future. Are space-time metaphors not allowed in Lojban? How would you say "postpone", whether or not it is the word we want here? >I meant {pensi}, the general term for considering >things, apparently. And it is just (official) consideration that is being >intermitted. My first reading was that you meant {le nu pensi} to be the x3 of denpa rather than the x4, taking a break to think things through. I have trouble associating {pensi} with what one does at these meetings. > >"Meeting" {nu pensi kansa} (Hawk ptui! > >nu pensi'u > >> >{pensi'u} smells malglico -- we want a coming together of a group, not a >bumping into one another by its various members. It may be the best we can >do, but it is not very accurate (nor startlingly inciteful as another type >of >good lujvo would be). It sounds like the gas laws -- molecules regularly >bumping into one another -- not an organization at a meeting (one hopes -- >although,...} Is {penmi} really about bumping into one another? Isn't that {janli}? {penmi} has an x3 which could be an event of whatever it is that one does at a meeting. (stidi/casnu/pajni/jdice maybe even some pensi?) mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com