From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Aug 02 15:29:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 2 Aug 2002 22:29:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6154 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 22:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2002 22:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao01.cox.net) (68.1.17.244) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 22:29:37 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20020802222937.CDMQ29627.lakemtao01.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:29:37 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020802181753.03070570@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 18:29:31 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Official projects (was: Re: [lojban] pedagogy and lojban) In-Reply-To: <020a01c23a3c$c97daa60$5a9e03d5@oemcomputer> References: <009601c23873$82198420$5a9e03d5@oemcomputer> <0H06005IRAFKHA@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020802104312.03098290@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 05:53 PM 8/2/02 +0200, G. Dyke wrote: >Thanks for not complaining "this was why I was hesitant in making things >people were doing 'official supported projects'". I have no complaints about the new official projects policy. We have a mechanism to give the Board review rights, which is what I felt was needed. Robin convinced me that he'll handle the web page maintenance to support things. >You seemed to think it was a really good idea, so I thought you might have >something more specific in mind than "yeah, I agree, some proper >educational, *teaching* material would be cool". I think that we need more teaching stuff, but I've given all my ideas on teaching in the course of the draft textbooks and what I mentioned in the discussion in the last day or so. Athelstan was the one who could teach a small group; I have no talent for teaching, it seems. My ideas tend to be built around what worked for me in self-teaching, and I've found out that people don't necessarily like my way of learning, which is heavily drill and kill oriented. (I used LogFlash religiously for a couple of months over a decade ago and still know the words despite rarely trying to use Lojban.) >Would this definition of an official project seem OK? > >"This is something so cool, it really wants finishing! Could someone >coordinate all the efforts of this project and keep LLG up to date on how >far you've got. Try to make everything you do available to the public so >that if you get tired of doing it, someone can pick up where you left off, >instead of starting all over from scratch. If you get tired of doing, spend >you last few hours of it making it accessible to whoever picks up the baton, >and tell LLG that you're not doing it for the anticipated future" As Jay noted, the minutes contain the official plan. But as for what constitutes a project that should be official, I think you've pretty well got it. The members having decided that we'll have "official projects", I'll support people who volunteer and who then act on what they volunteer for; but I also don't intend to wait for people to volunteer if I see something I would like LLG to support that is of comparable value to other projects that are being supported. -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org