From bob@RATTLESNAKE.COM Tue Aug 06 17:29:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: bob@rattlesnake.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 00:29:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 66688 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 00:29:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 00:29:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (140.186.114.245) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 00:29:13 -0000 Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:29:06 +0000 (UTC) To: lojbab@lojban.org Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020806173358.03249370@pop.east.cox.net> (message from Robert LeChevalier on Tue, 06 Aug 2002 17:45:33 -0400) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: non-core translations References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020805225835.00abfa10@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020806173358.03249370@pop.east.cox.net> From: "Robert J. Chassell" Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810561 lojbab@lojban.org writes: Your former impression is correct. The baselining clearly was intended to freeze the place structures as well as the words and keywords. I opposed freezing the place structures but was outvoted. .... I hate the keywords, since they sometimes are misleading. The place structures define lojban, since they replicate it. It was a good idea to freeze them. But as lojbab says: .... Even so, baseline or not, ANYTHING can be changed by consensus of the community .... and the end of the freeze period is coming up. The point I want to make -- and this is very relevant to people creating dictionaries in non-English languages -- is that the place structures tell you more about the meaning of the gismu than the keyword. Please look at the place structure! > When translating, for example, the most important thing is to get > a keyword for the gismu, .... No! Please don't! Please look at and translate the place structures. Ignore the keywords. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com Free Software Foundation http://www.gnu.org GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8