From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Aug 11 14:30:32 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 11 Aug 2002 21:30:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 34377 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2002 21:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Aug 2002 21:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.157) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 21:30:32 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 14:30:32 -0700 Received: from 200.69.6.57 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:30:31 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: RE: [lojban] space tenses Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:30:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2002 21:30:32.0041 (UTC) FILETIME=[5230CD90:01C2417E] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.6.57] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la and cusku di'e >{mi klama le zarci pu'o le nu mi citka} >I go to the shop in the runup to my eating. >{mi klama le zarci ca le nu mi pu'o citka} >I go to the shop at the time of the runup to my eating. >{mi pu'o klama le zarci ca le nu mi citka}. >It is the runup to my going, at the time of my eating, to the store. > >Hence my naive glossing reflects the usage you consider erroneous. Right. Those are all officially correct glosses. I have no problem with the last two, my problem is with the first one. I want to read it as the third one, not as the second one. I start from the premise that: broda = ku broda = broda (these might be strict equalities or approximations, it doesn't matter, but they surely hold at least roughly for all tags except for the official interpretation of {pu'o broda} and {ba'o broda}. These should be more precise forms of {pu'o broda} and {ba'o broda}, but they get more or less the opposite meaning. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx