From Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Mon Aug 12 09:15:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 12 Aug 2002 16:15:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 65318 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 16:15:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Aug 2002 16:15:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spree.gedas.de) (139.1.44.12) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 16:15:48 -0000 Received: from spree.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03131 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 18:15:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg (blnsem05.gedas.de [139.1.84.49]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03124; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 18:15:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3W819YC0>; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 18:15:41 +0200 Message-ID: To: "'Jorge Llambias'" , lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] fu'ivla with lujvo as rafsi? Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 18:15:39 +0200 Return-Receipt-To: "Newton, Philip" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Newton, Philip" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=23036112 X-Yahoo-Profile: elder_newton la xorxes cu cusku di'e > > I think {cesprenrapostolo} breaks as {ce sprenrapostolo}, > because "spr" is a valid initial cluster. (I'm not 100% > sure this is the rule though.) At any rate, that's how vlatai says the word breaks (as I checked after you said so): {ce} + stage-4 fu'ivla {sprenrapostolo}. > In any case, the stem has to end in a consonant and the > lojbanized borrowing has to start with a consonant, so neither > cespre-n-rapostolo nor cespren-r-apostolo are of this type > of fu'ivla. {li'o} > The usual way to deal with words that start with a vowel > is to add a x-. Sticking always to the same consonant has > the advantage that you reduce the number of doubtful cases. OK, thanks. fe'omi'e filip. [email copies appreciated, since I read the digest] {ko fukpi mrilu .i'o fi mi ki'u le du'u mi te mrilu loi notseljmaji} -- Philip Newton All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.