From Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Tue Aug 13 00:36:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 13 Aug 2002 07:36:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 38586 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 07:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2002 07:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spree.gedas.de) (139.1.44.12) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 07:36:30 -0000 Received: from spree.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12606 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:36:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg (blnsem05.gedas.de [139.1.84.49]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12602 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:36:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3W819Y5Z>; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:36:27 +0200 Message-ID: To: "'lojban@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Re: fu'ivla with lujvo as rafsi? Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:36:20 +0200 Return-Receipt-To: "Newton, Philip" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Newton, Philip" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=23036112 X-Yahoo-Profile: elder_newton la xorxes cu cusku di'e > > la filip cusku di'e > > >Is it possible to make type III fu'ivla using lujvo stems as > >pseudo-rafsi? > > The stem has to be a consonant ending rafsi. Anything else > can cause trouble. Can you explain to me why this is? > In any case, the stem has to end in a consonant and the > lojbanized borrowing has to start with a consonant Why is this? (Because the rules for making fu'ivla say so? Or because otherwise words break up?) In particular, ISTR having read that in some circumstances, it's OK if the borrowed bit starts with a vowel, though I don't recall the details (perhaps when the rafsi ending + glue is already crunchy enough?). mu'omi'e filip. [email copies appreciated, since I read the digest] {ko fukpi mrilu .i'o fi mi ki'u le du'u mi te mrilu loi notseljmaji} -- Philip Newton All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.