From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Aug 13 06:48:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 13 Aug 2002 13:48:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 7453 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 13:48:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2002 13:48:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.201) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 13:48:15 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:48:15 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:48:15 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] space tenses Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:48:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 13:48:15.0874 (UTC) FILETIME=[12F91620:01C242D0] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la pycyn cusku di'e >Well, part of the problem is that, if we are going to keep calling them >tenses, we do have only vectors and axes to work with. I think only PUs can strictly be called tenses. I had some trouble translating "spatial tense" into Spanish, because both "tense" and "time" are the same word ("tiempo"), and "spatial time" can only create confusion. >I take it that {za'e lo mentu be li mu} is your cobbled together way of >dealing with that problem (but shouldn't it be {xa'e} to at least pretend >to >be legal Lojban). {za'e lo mentu be li mu} is legal Lojban. It is not even a problem in your extended axis version: lo mentu be li mu is the fat axis in which the main event takes place. {za'e} says that the event takes a medium amount of time. The sumti simply makes that medium amount of time more precise. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com