From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Aug 14 14:27:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 14 Aug 2002 21:27:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 32374 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2002 21:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Aug 2002 21:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 21:27:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17f5g8-0003Xl-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:27:44 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17f5fx-0003XS-00; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:27:34 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17f5ft-0003XJ-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:27:29 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g7ELXSoT048305 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:33:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g7ELXNRt048299 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:33:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:33:23 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] kau -- What does it really mean?! Message-ID: <20020814213323.GA48274@allusion.net> References: <20020814210345.GA47062@allusion.net> <20020814165938.E45086-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020814165938.E45086-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 616 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 05:01:35PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Jordan DeLong wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:59:27PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > [...] > > > Comment2: ???? > > > The number of people here is a large number. > > > > > > You want to refer to the number of people here in > > > terms of the question "how many people are here?". > > > You want to extract a number from a proposition. > > > > > > > What's wrong with something along the lines of > > le ni zvati prenu cu barda > > > > I think this is maybe getting away from what the OP was talking > > about, but I think the 'ni' abstractor does what you want for above. >=20 > ni doesn't count the number, it offers a quantitative version of ka. Yes, > it is about as useless as that sounds. Err, but that's exactly what we want here... --=20 Jordan DeLong fracture@allusion.net --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9WsyjDrrilS51AZ8RAhHOAKC468zBR/KlXRtPouMr+ydZptgCKwCghmrF ZNO9ncaNH1z/ljHdWMh9Ucg= =jwSj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1--