From pycyn@aol.com Mon Aug 19 16:43:13 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 19 Aug 2002 23:43:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 82097 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2002 23:43:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Aug 2002 23:43:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.104) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2002 23:43:12 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.4b.21e256ac (4230) for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4b.21e256ac.2a92dc85@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:43:01 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] kau -- What does it really mean?! To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4b.21e256ac.2a92dc85_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra --part1_4b.21e256ac.2a92dc85_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/19/2002 1:37:36 PM Central Daylight Time, a-rosta@alphaphe.com writes: > semantics of direct questions = rogative illocutionary force + semantics > of 'indirect questions'. > > By 'indirect questions' I am thinking mainly of English subordinate > interrogative clauses (in the grammatical sense). > And note that that is "specify the ordinary descriptor" {ma broda} = tell me the identity of le broda (and all the others can be reduced to {ma}) Maybe this is part of the underlying connection between relatives and interrogatives that turns up in SAE (and others?) --part1_4b.21e256ac.2a92dc85_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/19/2002 1:37:36 PM Central Daylight Time, a-rosta@alphaphe.com writes:


semantics of direct questions = rogative illocutionary force + semantics
  of 'indirect questions'.

By 'indirect questions' I am thinking mainly of English subordinate
interrogative clauses (in the grammatical sense).


And note that that is "specify the ordinary descriptor" {ma broda} = tell me the identity of le broda (and all the others can be reduced to {ma})  Maybe this is part of the underlying connection between relatives and interrogatives that turns up in SAE (and others?) --part1_4b.21e256ac.2a92dc85_boundary--