From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Aug 20 08:28:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 20 Aug 2002 15:28:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 29845 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2002 15:28:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Aug 2002 15:28:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.209) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2002 15:28:58 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:28:58 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:28:58 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I like chocolate Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:28:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2002 15:28:58.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D8431B0:01C2485E] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la filip cusku di'e >what does "intensional" mean? It is easier to start with "extensional". When you refer to a set extensionally, you examine each of its members one by one in order to determine whether or not they have a given property. For example, if you say {lo broda cu brode} then the claim is that when you examine brodas one by one, there will be at least one for which the claim "it is broda" is true. This is what quantifiers do, they "run over" the members of a set one by one. An intensional reference, on the other hand, does not care about each member of the set. It only draws on what it takes to be a member of the set. When you say "I like chocolate", there is no quantity of chocolate such that you are making a claim about it. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com