From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Aug 21 18:37:23 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 22 Aug 2002 01:37:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 46481 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 01:37:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2002 01:37:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 01:37:22 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17hguY-0006g6-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:37:22 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17hguV-0006fo-00; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:37:19 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17hguP-0006ff-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:37:13 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g7M1fYIC001747 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:41:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g7M1fYx4001746 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:41:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:41:33 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] The number of dogs. Message-ID: <20020822014133.GA1648@allusion.net> References: <0208212116190K.01574@neofelis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0208212116190K.01574@neofelis> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 743 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:16:19PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 21 August 2002 19:56, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > I can't say for sure what {li mo'e le gerku} means, but > > one theory holds that it is the dimensioned number > > "all the dogs", like {li mo'e ci gerku} would give the > > dimensioned number "3 dogs". "All the dogs" might work > > for "the number of dogs", but where would you use it? > > Not in a context that asks for a bare number. >=20 > I think {li mo'e le gerku} is meaningless. {li mo'e pa molro}, on the oth= er=20 > hand, sounds like a reasonable thing to call Avogadro's number. However, you're clearly wrong evidenced by chap18 ex. 18.4: mi viska vei mo'e lo'e lanzu ve'o cinfo I see (the typical family)-number of lions I see a pride of lions. Given that, and the other discussion on mo'e, the meaning of li mo'e le gerku is what you'd expect. (li mo'e ro le su'o gerku -- the count of all the dogs i'm currently describing (i.e., what rlp said)). > As to the number of dogs, I agree with {terkancu}. I agree terkancu works also. --=20 Jordan DeLong fracture@allusion.net --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9ZEFNDrrilS51AZ8RAoFIAKC7+doBSUedd440XxJLU7c7xFTPBwCfcunr 9siimfEND39YcWOxbKtPJdo= =s/Uj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ--