From phma@webjockey.net Wed Aug 21 19:07:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 22 Aug 2002 02:07:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 77389 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 02:07:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2002 02:07:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 02:07:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17hhNQ-0006iy-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:07:12 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17hhMk-0006ig-00; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:06:31 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=neofelis.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17hhMf-0006iX-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:06:25 -0700 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 334523C485; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] The number of dogs. Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:05:41 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <0208212116190K.01574@neofelis> <20020822014133.GA1648@allusion.net> In-Reply-To: <20020822014133.GA1648@allusion.net> X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208212205410L.01574@neofelis> X-archive-position: 744 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Wednesday 21 August 2002 21:41, Jordan DeLong wrote: > However, you're clearly wrong evidenced by chap18 ex. 18.4: > mi viska vei mo'e lo'e lanzu ve'o cinfo > I see (the typical family)-number of lions > I see a pride of lions. > > Given that, and the other discussion on mo'e, the meaning of li mo'e le > gerku is what you'd expect. (li mo'e ro le su'o gerku -- the count of all > the dogs i'm currently describing (i.e., what rlp said)). mo'e pa lanzu is the number of members in one family. mo'e pa gerku is thus the number of members in one dog, but what does that mean? But the number of members in one mole is Avogadro's number. phma