From jcowan@reutershealth.com Sat Aug 31 16:50:06 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 31 Aug 2002 23:50:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 58663 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2002 23:50:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Aug 2002 23:50:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2002 23:50:06 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17lI0E-0000l3-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:50:06 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17lI0C-0000kl-00; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:50:04 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [65.246.141.151] (helo=mail2.reutershealth.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17lI07-0000kW-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:49:59 -0700 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA17922; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200208312359.TAA17922@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:45:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] JL & LK To: bob@RATTLESNAKE.COM Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jkominek@miranda.org, lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: from "Robert J. Chassell" at Aug 30, 2002 01:41:41 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 883 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: John Cowan Reply-To: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Robert J. Chassell scripsit: > As far as I can figure out, PDF is designed by and for people who > typeset and print. PDF was designed for a world that is passing; it > is not designed for the modern world. The consumption of paper is rising steadily, and the need for final-form (non-editable) documents has not gone away. I myself now print at 600 dpi a good deal that once I would have read on-screen at 72 dpi. I grow old, I grow old, I shall wear the corners of my glasses rolled. --Not T.S. Eliot > How well does PDF work with an acoustic desktop? It depends on how the PDF was created: it always contains glyphs; it may or may not contain characters. > (An example of an online issue: from the point of view of someone > from the early 1980s, HTML is instrinsically broken. Because of its > design, you can never create an HTML document that you can navigate as > efficiently as an Info document. This is because HTML does not > distinguish between references to another part of the same document > and references to node outside the document. So your search mechanism > can work well only within the current page; or you must depend on a > preconstructed index.) By convention it is easy to distinguish, because hrefs whose value begin with "#" are always intradocument. It is possible to create hrefs that are intradocument and do not begin with "#", but only by punning, which is bad HTML practice. > XML is not as good as Texinfo; the sources are harder to read or > listen to than Texinfo sources, but it is a popular mark up language > and would be an OK choice, too. XML is not a markup language. DocBook and TEI are markup languages. -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Assent may be registered by a signature, a handshake, or a click of a computer mouse transmitted across the invisible ether of the Internet. Formality is not a requisite; any sign, symbol or action, or even willful inaction, as long as it is unequivocally referable to the promise, may create a contract. --_Specht v. Netscape_