From opoudjis@optushome.com.au Sat Aug 31 19:25:27 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: opoudjis@optushome.com.au X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 1 Sep 2002 02:25:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 39303 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2002 02:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Sep 2002 02:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail025.syd.optusnet.com.au) (210.49.20.147) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Sep 2002 02:25:26 -0000 Received: from [210.49.155.40] (c17180.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au [210.49.155.40]) by mail025.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g812PPF23503 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 12:25:25 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: opoudjis@mail.optushome.com.au Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 12:24:39 +1000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: pronunciation guide for lessons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Nick Nicholas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=90350612 X-Yahoo-Profile: opoudjis Scott Weller suggested to me back in May that the pronunciation guide in the lessons should "give examples of each sound in each of several different languages (perhaps the six languages of the gismu generation algorithm)." I think this is a cute idea, and am willing to run with it. Could I ask people to come up with example pronunciation words for the lerfu, in Chinese, Hindi, Spanish, Russian, and Arabic? You'll be credited in the intro, of course. I know our user base is already covered for Chinese (Mandarin, I assume), Spanish, Russian; if worst comes to worst for Hindi and Arabic, I'll go to Berlitz. Where the sound is not present in the language, I don't think near-enoughs should be included; just move on to the next. For voiced stops, e.g., I don't think a Chinese equivalent should be proposed; and I think the Chinese equivalent of p is Pinyin b [p], not Pinyin p [ph]... -- [][][][] [][][][][][][][][][] [][][][] Dr Nick Nicholas. opoudjis@optushome.com.au http://www.opoudjis.net University of Melbourne: nickn@unimelb.edu.au Chiastaxo dhe to giegnissa, i dhedhato potemu, ma ena chieri aftumeno ecratu, chisvissemu. (I Thisia tu Avraam)