From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Sep 02 13:12:25 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 2 Sep 2002 20:12:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 83244 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2002 20:12:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2002 20:12:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 20:12:25 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17lxYf-0007dC-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:12:25 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17lxY1-0007cq-00; Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:11:45 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from texas.pobox.com ([64.49.223.111]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17lxXv-0007ch-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:11:39 -0700 Received: from pobox.com (lsanca1-ar9-4-65-085-030.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.65.85.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by texas.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854B84539A for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 16:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3D73D417.2060809@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:11:51 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: eo, ia, en-us, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: pronunciation guide for lessons References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-archive-position: 905 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: brion@pobox.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Brion Vibber From: Brion Vibber Reply-To: brion@pobox.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out la aulun. pu cusku zoi gy. > As an example: setting up a lojban prounciation guide for the French > language, it surely would be odd and pretty losing the point _not_ to examplify > lojban [p] giving "Paris" for the only reason that French [p], unlike German or > English - or Lojban!, actually is pronounced _without the least_ aspiration! .gy .i .ua nai ne'i la'o gy. The Complete Lojban Language gy. se cusku zoi gy. Lojban consonants can be aspirated or unaspirated. gy. .i xu le cukta srera le nu go'i mu'o mi'e .braiyn.