From xod@thestonecutters.net Fri Sep 06 10:21:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 6 Sep 2002 17:21:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 3679 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2002 17:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Sep 2002 17:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2002 17:21:56 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17nMns-00061W-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:21:56 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17nMn8-00061C-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:21:10 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17nMn1-000610-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:21:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g86HL1P48990 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:21:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:21:01 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: To play with someone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020906132029.U48096-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 955 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Newton, Philip wrote: > What's "to play with someone"? > > I suspect {ko kelci mi} means "play with me!" but in the wrong sense -- "use > me as a toy" rather than "join me in playing (this/a) game". How to express > the latter sense? > > Ah... [searches jvoste] {ko kankei mi}, perhaps? It has both x1 and x2 as > the players. (It's unclear what the difference is between {kankei} and > {kelkansa}, however.) mi joi ko kelci -- Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act of terrorism. Why would that event change the situation? -- Howard Zinn