From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Sep 09 17:08:25 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 10 Sep 2002 00:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 23202 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 00:08:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2002 00:08:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 00:08:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17oYZt-0007UR-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:08:25 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17oYZH-0007U9-00; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:07:47 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250] helo=intrex.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17oYZB-0007Tx-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:07:41 -0700 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.29] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7A799E6007A; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 20:07:03 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] zo jondatnymu'e .e zo balcukta poi mabla (was Re: Archive location.) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:07:02 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-reply-to: <20020910000926.GA93802@allusion.net> Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: raganok@intrex.net [209.42.200.29] X-archive-position: 1009 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: raganok@intrex.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: raganok@intrex.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out >> >I'd just prefer that "balcukta" doesn't become the generally-used lujvo >> >for "web" (because it sucks much). (I guess tend to prefer more literal >> >lujvo when possible...). >> >> Just because it's not a book, the web can still cukta. >> I have a jar of hot sauce I made in the fridge. by no stretch of the >> imagination is it a bottle, but it is a botpi. This is analogous - it is a >> misleading keyword. >I'd suggest you compare the two gi'uste entries. botpi *specifically* >says that any closable container/jar/etc counts. OTOH cukta gives us >almost nothing other than the word "book" as the definition. We really >have to assume it means book (I suppose magazines and such probably count >also). In my opinion, it is enough of a grey area that I don't like balcukta. I just don't think it's evil.