From xod@thestonecutters.net Tue Sep 10 10:22:02 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 10 Sep 2002 17:22:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 90926 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 17:22:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2002 17:22:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 17:22:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17ooiA-0001mQ-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:22:02 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17oohW-0001lz-00; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:21:22 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17oohP-0001lq-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:21:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8AHLDW69195 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:21:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:21:13 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: word for "www" (was: Archive location.) In-Reply-To: <176.e40fb19.2aaf7262@aol.com> Message-ID: <20020910131928.Y68275-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1020 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple >>From http://nuzban.wiw.org/wiki/index.php?ralcku 1. maldzena reservations about the virtuality of a cukta can be overcome by considering the modern meaning of the term "document", and considering a cukta as a collection of documents. 2. The gismu definition does not refer to the cohesiveness often considered necessary for "books". 3. Is a "single website" a cukta? Can a cukta be in hypertext form and retain its status as a single cukta? Is a Wiki any sort of cukta? Beware of importing the malglico semantics of "book"! 4. Different websites are often linked together, associatively and with the cohesion of meaning. 5. The linking of different hypertext documents follows the same behavior as linking to other locations in the same file, or other files written by the same author and residing on the same server. Whereas there is a conceptual difference between flipping a page in a book, and closing its cover and opening a different book, there is no conceptual distinction between following a link to a different location in the same file, and visiting a different "website". 6. Therefore the semantic distinction between different "websites" is not always conceptually clear. Hyperlinked documents can be considered the same document, albeit not the same file. Authorship is the only difference between a single work, and a compiled, annotated work. However, a cukta can have multiple authors, and be created over time. -- Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act of terrorism. Why would that event change the situation? -- Howard Zinn